Comments on: Too Dot Oh: Making Sense of the Terrible 2’s

By: My thoughts on 2.0 | OntoreBangladesh

My thoughts on 2.0 | OntoreBangladesh — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:57:26 +0000

[...] I recently commented on a couple of posts on Dan Pontefract’s Training Wreck where he provides his perspectives on the 2.0 meme (web 2.0, enterprise 2.0, learning 2.0, Claire [...]

By: Holly MacDonald

Holly MacDonald — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:43:00 +0000

Great post Dan.

I’m not sure when HR will get it – you would think that the economic crisis would have jolted some HR teams to do things differently, but many that I talk to are reverting to the same old, same old. 60 hour work weeks are back with a vengeance.

Have the economic circumstances actually caused HR to regress rather than seize the opportunity to make a fundamental change to how they do business? If so, what do you think needs to happen for HR to make that change?

I think there may be some that are penning HR’s eulogy now and finance/operations/marketing are all waiting on the sidelines to show that they could do a better job than HR (whether they are right is of some debate).

What do you think?

By: 2.0 and Interesting Times | Inventions Blog

2.0 and Interesting Times | Inventions Blog — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:35:02 +0000

[...] post by Dan Pontefract where he provides definitions of some different “2.0″ definitions and the HR & [...]

By: anne gaffney-iehl

anne gaffney-iehl — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:07:02 +0000

My department is migrating to a ROWE environment (Results Only Work Environment) which is very work 2.0 as you describe above.
Check out http://www.culturerx.com/ for more info.

By: Holly St John Peck

Holly St John Peck — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:12:19 +0000

Good to have a definition at each level, although I’m most concerned with Learning 2.0 (being a learning and development professional touting blended learning). Thanks for providing clarity at the other layers for work, culture, people! My hope is that organizations can embrace and support the Culture 2.0 definition soon to capitalize on what’s already happening naturally with their millennial employees – connected and community-driven learning.

By: Rotkapchen

Rotkapchen — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:32:40 +0000

I’m most enamored with your title. Somehow just while considering it, I saw this brilliant dimension. It’s not really 2.0 until the recipient gets to the “OH!”

By: dan.pontefract

dan.pontefract — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:27:45 +0000

guilty as charged Jon Ingham – using it more to stir the pot (thanks Jon Husband) and pin a moniker on the ‘evolution’

By: Jon Ingham

Jon Ingham — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:33:57 +0000

Hi Dan (and Susan).

I’d agree with your point about HR. We know that any technology ends up having less impact than it should when driven by IT (sorry, Susan). Web 2.0 etc is about behaviour change – to be effective, it should be driven by HR. And what a wonderful opportunity for HR to grab a strategic remit as well…

The other point I’d like to make is that I personally feel that you’re in some ways guilty of the same over-application of the 2.0 tag as your family and friends.

2.0 can mean a couple of things. One is that it simply refers to any significant, qualitative vs quantitative shift over the ways things were done before (otherwise we’d be talking about 1.1 not 2.0). But then work 2.0, culture 2.0 could mean anything. So I don’t think that’s a useful route to go.

But I’d suggest that the other way of looking at this, and the only way I can see to bring these terms closer together is that they’re all about ’social’. Web 2.0 = social technology, enterprise 2.0 = a more social way of organising etc.

In fact, as we’ve discussed on your previous post, HR in a 2.0 World: Leading vs. Following (http://www.danpontefract.com/?p=117), they’re all about generating social capital.

Just a personal view of course!

For more, see http://blog.social-advantage.com

By: Jon Husband

Jon Husband — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 06:48:35 +0000

Nicely put .. clear and succinct. The calls for transforming HR into business partners, coaches and enablers have been building for at least the last ten if not fifteen years and not much has happened in response to those calls (as a generality) .. way to stir the pot, Dan!

By: Susan Scrupski

Susan Scrupski — Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:56:52 +0000

Personally, would love to see HR step up to lead here. One of the perfect (and perhaps rare) occasions in the landscape of business transformation where they’re rightfully heir to this throne. (Bad metaphor for 2.0, but you get the idea.)